Sunday, July 26, 2009

Belief

Belief. As a word in and of itself, it's one of the more powerful. It has launched battles, inspired great art, torn close families apart, and so on. But although we may dwell upon the details of our beliefs, the very concept of belief is often overlooked. Everybody believes something, though some think that they believe nothing at all. The band Rush once sang, "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice." But why do we choose to believe or doubt? Let's take a look…

We either believe or doubt something based upon our own empirical experiences. So truth is built upon truth and experience. Doubts are those ideas that are filtered out of the truth column. But we believe what seems reasonable, based upon our previous experiences, and the consideration of the alleged facts presented. Some require little to convince, others a bit more, others still require tremendous amounts, and some are impossible to convince. No matter what the data presented, sadly, some will never let go of a belief that they feel more "comfortable" with. An example:

Person a: Do you believe that China exists?

Person b: Yes.

Person a: How do you know?

Person b: I've seen pictures.

Person a: They're fakes!

Person b: I've met people from China.

Person a: They're lying!

Person b: I've flown there myself!

Person a: while your plane was in the air, they set up a fake scenario on the ground. You circled in the air for an hour, landed, and they tricked you!

For each individual, there comes a point where the evidence presented, along with their own personal experience, tells them either to believe or not to believe. For many it seems, it is a source of constant frustration to have someone else believe something that they feel differently about. Often, we perceive an attack on our beliefs as an attack upon ourselves; that if our theology or philosophy is somehow flawed, then our justification as a person is threatened. While this thinking is clearly misguided, the wise person recognizes this aspect and modifies their actions accordingly. If I am ever to convince you of the things I feel are true; if you are ever to convince me, we must lower the ego and accept that others may indeed be as bright as ourselves, that questioning my beliefs does not challenge me as a person, that I CAN change my position based upon additional evidences, and that other's are more easily won over through a sense of mutual respect than by aggressive words.

I do not subscribe to the "birther" movement, but respect their concerns, give validity to the idea of requiring a certificate in the future (there is no legal requirement to present said documents), and respect their right to question what I already accept as fact. A case in point: I do not feel that it's fair to put an excessive burden on the wealthy for health insurance, yet recognize a need to solve a desperate problem, and hope that over the long haul we'll come up with a fair but functional system – we're Americans, damn it. Others have done it; we can too. We went to the moon with the computing power of a modern digital watch or two; this should be easy.

In closing, I preach to you to hold solid to those beliefs that you're certain of, be open-minded and well informed without bias, and respect each other and their opinions. Insulting people for thinking differently only incites similar activity, and produces nothing of worth. No matter how hard we try, we all succumb to the perceived attacks, intentional or not, when our beliefs are insulted. Still, we should try, both to be forgiving, and to not be offensive. This is the American way, my friends. Everybody gets a voice. But use wisdom in speaking, and use the ears too.

John

24 comments:

  1. Wow, you certainly have a very convincing way with words. Your insightful, and it's also well written. Oddly sometimes those two don't go together. Well, keep writing and I'll keep reading.

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  2. Thank you, Ali. I try to be the purveyor of useful knowledge, and I feel better when people seem to get my message. Be well, and we'll "speak" again.

    John

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  3. I wish you had explained what the birther movement is, I don't think I've ever heard of it before. I'm glad you discussed the differences in people's thresholds for belief. That won't remain static, of course. It varies within each person on different topics, and will change over time. It's interesting to me that kids get both more and less convincible as they age.
    You say evidence and personal experience lead us to decide what we believe. I don't think that covers everything. Sometimes we believe without evidence or experience, simply because we chose to. It gives us comfort, or security, or something. We may even know we may not be right, but we still choose to believe, beyond all evidence and even against our own experience. Pure faith, you might call it. I believe it does exist.
    I enjoyed your posts, and will be back for more. You're welcome to visit me at http://abookwithaview.blogspot.com for a chat. TTYL

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  4. Teri K:

    Thanks for the thoughtful feedback. If you haven't been told by now, the "birthers" think that Barrack Obama isn't a US citizen, despite the evidence presented. Thy are not yet convinced.

    You are correct, in that sometimes we simply believe because we want to. These beliefs are easily destroyed because they aren't based on anything solid, but are nonetheless true in the mind of the beholder. I will consider your words in greater detail - thanks for the insights.

    John

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  5. John, So much to say and so little space! I will start by saying I'm very sorry to hear about your sight. I don't pretend to know what that is like. I can say that three years ago my husband had a large blood clot removed from his brain's right frontal lobe. It damaged his short term memory, logic and math skills, etc. You can imagine what that was like for an applied math major/computer programmer. He never learned how to add and carry more than one column. Other math was forever beyond him. His computer skills advanced to learning how to turn the computer on and surf the net. (And order things online, but that's another story.) After the surgery he had a number of smaller strokes, one of which damaged his eyesight. He developed left field neglect. Two years of weekly visual therapy from one of the few experts in the country, and lots of practice at home, finally allowed him to read large print books, though they had to be old friends, as he couldn't keep track of the plots very well. Books on tape helped, too. Of course I also read aloud. I'm sure you know about the special readers you can get from the library that allow you to listen to many books, about audible.com and things like that. But I also know none of those give you the total freedom to pick up what you want and read whenever you want. I'm sorry.
    When Bill died in August of another brain hemorrhage his corneas were given to two blind people, one a family man who hadn't seen since childhood, another an older man who had lost his sight. Is this a possibility for you?
    This leads into my second point. You state that beliefs not founded on reason and experience are easily destroyed. With all that he went through, neither of us or our kids lost our belief in the God of the Bible and Jesus as our Savior. We asked questions, and still do, but we also choose to still believe. If you knew all of my life -- growing up with undiagnosed bi-polar problems, losing my father six weeks before I lost Bill, having to put my mother in a seniors home due to her advanced Alzheimer's, etc, you might think that I've had plenty challenges to my faith. I believe I have. I ask questions, get mad at God, wonder why I see him heal other people when he didn't heal Bill, etc., but I still believe. I told someone who asked if I didn't wonder why our family had gone through so much, no; after all, many others have gone through and are going through so much more than me. Do you know much about great Christian and Jewish martyrs, some famous but many known only to God? Their faith grew, rather than weakening, as they suffered. Are you familiar with the problems in the Sudan, China, Kenya, and so on? I don't think their faith should be easily dismissed. It's something to consider.
    That said, I hope you understand I'm not trying to "convert" you. I love discussing important issues, (well, minor ones, too,) as I grew up in that kind of family. I miss it. And I'm not closed-minded. You have said interesting and true things in your posts. Please keep it up.
    Teri

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  6. Me again! I see in your post you do use assisted reading devices, sorry for missing that.
    As an aside, my brother was one of those impossible to convince people. As kids we once had a disagreement over the name of someone involved in the fur trade in Oregon. My Dad knew, but told us to look in the encyclopedia, as he frequently did. I was right. My brother declared the encyclopedia was wrong, and refused to budge. That's when I decided not to debate or try to correct a fool. They have no interest in the truth. (He seems to have improved with age.)

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  7. Hey, Teri. Let me start by apologizing; I stated my position poorly and it gives the feel of belittlement, which was not my intention. Such is the cyberworld, I imagine. I guess what I was trying to state was that when a belief is contradicted by fact, then it crumbles under scrutiny. But a faith in something where there is no evidence to suggest it's in error has amazing potential - it is the strength of our prayers, and our hopes. Much of theism and the religious offshoots thereof are supported by empirical evidence. As a Christian and a scientist both, I see faith (that belief that cannot be proven, nor disproved) as an energy that connects God's energy with our own. VERY unorthodox, I'm sure. But also very powerful when a direct connection is established.

    I cried when I read of your husband's tale; the loss of my faculties will be the greatest test of whether or not I have anything left to live for. All of my life I've been prepared for the worst of what diabetes can do, but if I lose my ability to reason, well, I just don't know. My prayers are with you, and thanks for the very personal outreach - I truly appreciate it. Be well.

    John

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  8. Teri:
    One other thing: I have no fear of someone trying to "convert" me, or in any other way convincing me of something I do not currently believe. I offer myself as an opportunity to all to test their beliefs, to be sure of what they claim. If I'm convinced of truths during the process, all the better. But I do require strong and multiple evidences, and convincing ones, too. You are not only free to express yourself here, but are INVITED to do so, without fear of aggression. I only ask that all involved remain respectful, but even if others are debating amongst each other on my blog, it's OK with me. So please, be yourself and speak freely.

    John

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  9. John, yes that helped clear things up for me. Thanks.

    The only other thing I can say is what I said to Bill many times. I'd been a stay at home Mom. He'd worked since he was 15, and always been the sole financial earner. After his strokes, he felt useless and a burden. I would remind him that our value doesn't come from who we are and what we do, but from our Creator. And when Jesus gave His life for us, He demonstrated that value clearly.

    One of my favorite poems has long been Milton's On His Blindness. I don't know if you have a copy of it, but you can probably google it. He was going blind when he wrote it. He ends by saying, "They also serve who only stand and wait." I believe that with all my heart.
    Be blessed.

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  10. Eerie - Milton went blind at the age of 44 - I am 44. Coincidence, I'm sure. Yes; the poetic verse and the iambic pentameter (something I learned about during the Google research) kinda forced the artist's hand; a more easily read version might say, "They also serve, those who only stand and wait." I guess my real fear is of the unknown. I will no longer be able to care for myself in many ways, at least at first. If my final days can be somehow be spent sharing my mind with others, it's almost like having children, in that I can effect the future in this way. Otherwise, I am foam upon the sea.

    John

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  11. Another great post, the bit about china was hillarious, will be waiting to read the next.

    T.A.T.

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  12. Hi, enjoyed your posts, responses and the comments, certainly evry interesting. Agree that ego gets in the way of what we perceive as real. Brings to mind a 'discussion' I had recently about the difference between doubt and scepticism. To me it was context, to my fren it was misinterpretation. And then we got into perception vs reality and now we can add "belief". Cheers...

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  13. Forgot 1 more thing, I will pray for your health. God Bless
    Coincidentally I'm quoting this for the 2nd time in 24 hrs.. From Gwendolyn Brooks 1917 (last 4 lines) -
    "And remember:
    live not for Battles Won.
    Live not for The-End-of-the-Song,
    Live in the along."

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  14. TAT:

    Great to see you still here! I look forward to your continued sharing of knowledge as well. take care.

    John

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  15. Being Me:

    Thanks for the comment! And thanks too for the prayers. Admittedly, I'm suffering from depression at the moment, as anyone losing something as precious as sight would be. I hope to snap out of this soon, and continue to be my usual self. I suffer from bi-polar disorder, which just adds to the mess. Inside, I'm 10 percent scared child and 90 percent ferocious fighter.

    John

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  16. John, I've been out of touch for a while. I finally headed home from the kid's, and had to stop to vacation on the way. I'm looking forward to visiting some more. How are things going for you? I'll definitely keep praying for you during this difficult time.
    Be blessed.

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  17. Hi, Teri K... thanks for checking by. I'll be blogging some new stuff soon, but I just had a few dark days there. My doctor happened to see me in this poor state and prescribed some meds for my depression - finally, after decades of this bipolar roller-coaster ride, perhaps a step towards some control! I don't yet know if these will help; time will tell, both that and if I can tolerate them. But I'm a great patient, in that I comply with nearly any request from the doc. So we'll see what happens. Regardless, I seem to be holding together better these days. Again; I appreciate the concern. This is something you just can't wish upon anyone. It's too life altering. If you were robbed of time, you'd turn to quality. But to lose both is hard to man up to. Nonetheless...

    John

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  18. Hi John. Thanks for your comment on my blog.I really did(while reflecting) think that my tone was a bit acrid. I promise that I will apply a bit more moderation to my statements. I appreciate your perspective and I will be following your blog and commenting on matters about which I have I strong opinions.

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  19. Sunblast:
    Glad to have you aboard. I look forward to future topics. I may not know the answers, but I'm willing to look for them with you. There's no reason that sensible minds can't examine things, regardless of whether or not we always agree.

    John

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  20. Well, the reason why anybody can think that they are able to disprove the existence of say, China, is because so much of our knowledge is subjective. Our brain takes in most of our information with our eyes, and then, according to genetics, the environment, experiences, knowledge, logic, and many other variables, it processes that information in its own way. This is why science is so tricky- humans conduct most scientific tests, and so human error or bias can ruin an experiment. Similarly, if someone hasn't seen China and thinks that the only things that exist are ones they can see, then they might they argue that China doesn't exist from their own (flawed) point of view.

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  21. dannyd:
    Indeed, many (if not all) tests are constructed to serve the needs or questions of the individual, tainting the test from the start with bias and slant.

    The notion of only believing what you see is quickly disproved either by asking them to stick their hand through a hole in the wall (a dirty trick) or pointing out things such as government - a truly two-dimensional object (thing) that exists in the third dimension, that cannot be directly seen. Time would be another good example, as are speed, history, human feelings, democracy, sound, mathematics, etc. Even truth cannot be directly seen, only indirectly - not directly with the eyes.

    You said it well - information truly seems subjective, which kinda enforces the theology of the existentialist, which disregards the religious and secular "knowledge" of today, believing instead that truth is defined only by one's own existence and experience. Interesting.

    John

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  22. I liked it :D

    The part about china was funny :)

    Thank-you for sharing.

    www.colinbloginit.blogspot.com

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  23. Your posts give me much to think about.it is amazing how much we do not understand or appreciate about ourselves and the things we need to do.I have no belief in God, but it is not because I am unable to see god with my physical eyes.It is because I understand why man feels he needs a god thus his varied attempts to meet this need.The problem arises when the beliefs or non belief of one person becomes dangerous to others. Some beliefs are clearly wrong. I nevertheless agree with what you have said about respecting views with which we may not agree.It is, however, difficult to respect beliefs that are wrong and dangerous.You are a very wise man,I will learn from your writings.I am of the view that whether it is religion, philosophy or politics there are times when beliefs are dangerous,and particularly dangerous when fanitical. I share you basic sentiments and hope we will all be able to turn our swords into plowshares one day.

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  24. Sunblast:

    My apologies for the long delay in responding; my vision will forever be an obstacle to me.

    I think one of the best things to take away from this is that whether we agree or disagree, we need to respect the fact that those who disagree are still nonetheless humans, with the most powerful mental processors in the world. I have no use for swords, but will gladly help to plow your field. I simply encourage all to give credit to other's beliefs and show respect. We all benefit from such an approach. Thanks for the comment, and again, I'm sorry to be so long in responding.

    John

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